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Post by expertsetup on Feb 3, 2007 13:06:49 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
I have been working on converting my BBS software from the 80's to work with my BBS Server setup. My C64 is connected to the PC with BBS Server 1.3 and everything seems to work great. When a new connection comes in my BBS can now detect it and present the login prompt.
The problem I have is when my BBS sends the hang up code to the modem, BBS Server doesn't pick it up and disconnect.
I have a subroutine that prints out a string of +++ with a pause after each + and then ATH0. so the final string looks like this:
+++ATH0
So far I can't get BBS Server to detect this and hang up. Since all I need to get the BBS online is this last issue worked out, I sure could use the help.
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Post by expertsetup on Feb 3, 2007 13:26:22 GMT -5
Well it turns out I was sending the hang up string in PETSCII and it needs to be ASCII. I figured it out with CCGMS and just typed it out until it worked.
The time delay had to be tuned and that did the trick.
So now look for my BBS soon!
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Post by wiskow on Feb 3, 2007 18:03:26 GMT -5
So now look for my BBS soon! I had no idea that you had written your own BBS software. I'm looking forward to "seeing it in action"! ;D -Andrew ___________________________________ Cottonwood BBS +1 (951) 242-3593 Open 24/7 at 300/1200/2400 baud hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs |
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Post by expertsetup on Feb 3, 2007 23:30:28 GMT -5
Thanks wiskow, It turns out that I just needed to add a delay and wait for BBS Server to respond with"OK" after the "+++" string and then just keep sending "ath" until it responded to that with "OK" as well. There was no need to 'convert' the string to ascii I just sent it as lower case  . The BBS software is a long way from polished, but it is workable. It has message base, punter file transfers & some more goodies but the credit system has never been implemented completely. I have one last issue before I can take it online. Should be ready for public testing later tonight. |
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Post by wiskow on Feb 4, 2007 1:37:40 GMT -5
Perhaps some might disagree with me, but in this day and age, I think a credit system on any BBS is really unnecessary. With AA BBS, you just set the user's credits to -1 to give them "unlimited credits". This is what I set everyone for on my BBS. -Andrew ___________________________________ Cottonwood BBS +1 (951) 242-3593 Open 24/7 at 300/1200/2400 baud hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs |
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Post by expertsetup on Feb 4, 2007 7:05:01 GMT -5
well it turns out I also use the -1 feature for unlimited credits.I agree that everyone will get full credit now, but I like that it's there to reflect the historical aspect. I don't plan to over work the sections that are obsolete.
I have sorted through all the different versions of my source code and finally found the most recent code. This will really help me finish up as it is the most complete version.
Lots of memories have been flooding in as I work on this.
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Post by Golan Klinger on Feb 4, 2007 8:30:01 GMT -5
Earlier this evening Ian, a C= sysop and fellow PETSCII Forums participant, asked a semi-rehetorical question that has been on my mind for quite some time and it's somewhat germane to what is being discussed here. That is, what is the point of having file section on a telnet BBS when any and every 64 program in existence is available almost instantly through the web? I once thought it was a useful way of getting files to and from a 64 and now, not so much. If a person is savvy enough to connect their 64 to the Internet, it is likely that they have other methods of getting 64 software from the Internet to a 64. It seems to me that a 1541 could provide all the storage that is needed for a decent BBS although the 144 file and speed limitations might grow tiresome. A 1581 might prove a more logical choice. A hard drive, CMD or otherwise, seems like overkill. <seinfeld>Not that there's anything wrong with that.</seinfeld> A telnet BBS is an anachronism and having a file section on that BBS, doubly so.  P.S. None of this applies to Andrew's Cottonwood BBS as it is capable of serving a user with just a 64 and a modem. |
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Post by expertsetup on Feb 4, 2007 10:04:12 GMT -5
Earlier this evening Ian, a C= sysop and fellow PETSCII Forums participant, asked a semi-rehetorical question that has been on my mind for quite some time and it's somewhat germane to what is being discussed here. That is, what is the point of having file section on a telnet BBS when any and every 64 program in existence is available almost instantly through the web? I once thought it was a useful way of getting files to and from a 64 and now, not so much. If a person is savvy enough to connect their 64 to the Internet, it is likely that they have other methods of getting 64 software from the Internet to a 64. It seems to me that a 1541 could provide all the storage that is needed for a decent BBS although the 144 file and speed limitations might grow tiresome. A 1581 might prove a more logical choice. A hard drive, CMD or otherwise, seems like overkill. <seinfeld>Not that there's anything wrong with that.</seinfeld> A telnet BBS is an anachronism and having a file section on that BBS, doubly so. P.S. None of this applies to Andrew's Cottonwood BBS as it is capable of serving a user with just a 64 and a modem. I have to say that I quite agree with you on this. I doubt the transfer section will ever be used but it's there and it works with punter protocol . The only thing that wont work in the file section is credits, which is quite alright with me. As I wrap up the bit's & pieces of the project, I will most likely open the source. It seems like there is some general interest for running TelBBS so I'm sure someone will appreciate the effort. I guess it's really just an effort to wrap up the never ending project from my youth. Now that I can get the BBS online via TelBBS, I can show all my friends just what I used to do until dawn back in the 80's every night. In fact one of the people who collaborated with me on the project is quite excited to see the board running after all these years! It would seem the nostalgia factors in quite handily when it come to the C64 & BBS day's gone by.  |
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Post by wiskow on Feb 5, 2007 3:06:27 GMT -5
P.S. None of this applies to Andrew's Cottonwood BBS as it is capable of serving a user with just a 64 and a modem. Hey... Thanks for the "plug", Golan. ;-) Actually... A large file transfer section even on my BBS has little "practical value". Although I do intend to keep it well stocked with some "hard to find" items that may be of interest (I currently have two CD's coming my way from two different SysOps of former dial-up BBS's that are bound to be "chock full" of goodies). But honestly, the reason I keep the large file transfer section is more for historical preservation than anything else... Much like the BBS itself! ;-) -Andrew __________________________________ Cottonwood BBS +1 (951) 242-3593 Open 24/7 at 300/1200/2400 baud hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs |
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Post by Golan Klinger on Feb 5, 2007 3:30:52 GMT -5
expertsetup: File section, no file section, credits, no credits, it doesn't matter to me. I'm looking forward to adding your BBS to the TelBBS list. |
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Post by expertsetup on Feb 5, 2007 13:15:49 GMT -5
expertsetup: File section, no file section, credits, no credits, it doesn't matter to me. I'm looking forward to adding your BBS to the TelBBS list. Thanks Golan, I think it will be some time in the next week or so. It's a pitty I was out doors while the group chat was about. I guess I will have to check out the next one  |
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Post by wiskow on Feb 7, 2007 11:23:30 GMT -5
expertsetup: File section, no file section, credits, no credits, it doesn't matter to me. I'm looking forward to adding your BBS to the TelBBS list. I gave Expertsetup's BBS software a "beta test" run a couple nights ago. It's pretty basic, but easy to navigate. In all, it seems to be coming along nicely! :-) -Andrew ___________________________________ Cottonwood BBS +1 (951) 242-3593 Open 24/7 at 300/1200/2400 baud hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs |
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Post by Pinacolada on Feb 7, 2007 15:31:32 GMT -5
Perhaps some might disagree with me, but in this day and age, I think a credit system on any BBS is really unnecessary. Count me in. What's wrong with it? Give 'n take. FTP sites are for leeching. BBS's are for sharing. If no one uploads anything, what's the point of having a file transfer section at all? Goes back to someone's earlier argument. I like having file transfers, myself. YMMV. |
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Post by cube on Feb 18, 2007 9:14:36 GMT -5
I remember the fun of watching files being downloaded from a BBS - some terminals would display the raw data as it streamed across the modems, and at the end of each block it would either give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down, depending on the checksum. Handyterm was one particular program I used to use all the time and it allowed the viewing of the data. It was neat too, because at 1200 baud - you could usually read a lot of the text withing a file as it arrived and sometimes even find 'secrets' in there as well!
John
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