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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 8:06:02 GMT -5
I just remembered I took the cable from my C1351 to solder it to my Datic mouse for the Amiga. The C1351 has all 9 pins connected, but not the Datic, and I needed that to make it a 3-button mouse. s.o.b... And I don't even remember where I put the mouse parts. I most definitely have to find them to rebuild the thing... I hate discovering stupid things done a long time ago
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 9:37:20 GMT -5
I found this in one box: this in another box: and this in a third box: God d*** it! If I could time travel I would go back and bi*** slap myself to normal behaviour. One does not do things like this! Sob... However, it is not impossible to fix this. I just have to find the right missing components (IR diodes and photo transistors) And some mechanical stuff that fits. It may take some time though. The reason why I totally ripped it apart is beyond all knowledge. I have never ever used one single IR diode or photo transistor. If I can find my first Amiga mouse... It looks exactly tha same. Time to pay my basement a visit...
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 10:20:35 GMT -5
No luck down the basement. I found this in the garage though: And this in a paperbag full of trash and other stuff: [edit] I found the bottom part from my Amiga mouse. The plastic housing for the mechanical stuff doesn't fit. The cable has only 8 of the pins connected.
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 11:16:36 GMT -5
Went through the boxes o'junk again, knowing I was looking for tiny pieces. This time I found this: decoding wheel, axle, button board and ball housing. Oh the horror! The black housing is cut in pieces! Totally ruined... What evil forces made me do this? I have absolutely NO memory of doing this. *grump*
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 11:26:43 GMT -5
Hahaaa! Look what I found! Every single one of them. Now I just have to find out which is which...
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 15:32:00 GMT -5
Ok, things are starting to look somewhat brighter. I found out which was the diodes and so, and soldered them in place. I took a 9-pin D-sub extension cord and cut one connector. I then took the... ehm... that thing that protects the cable where it goes in to the mouse. Relief something... anyway, I took that from the Amiga mouse cord and pressed the serial cord into it. I needed some lube. It was real tight. ;D And then I connected the button board. I have one functional Amiga-mouse on the way here via mail. Real cheap too. $3 postage included. I will use the buttons from it. The hardest part is the decoder wheels and all that. I have looked inside 5 different mouses now, and none had the right stuff.
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Post by MadModder on Aug 26, 2006 16:49:52 GMT -5
This was a long shot. I stripped everything off of the PCB to an old serial mouse, except for the IR stuff, and then connected it to the C1351 board instead of the original IR components. And it actually works! Really well too. This was a BIG step in restoring the mouse.
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Post by MadModder on Aug 27, 2006 7:47:09 GMT -5
This is a ball cage transplant... ;D Soon this baby will be as good as new.
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Post by Golan Klinger on Aug 27, 2006 13:22:53 GMT -5
Reading this thread is like watching Star Wars. I know how this saga ends and yet I can't wait for the next episode. I still can't believe you found all the various bits all over your house after all those years. I also can't believe Yoda didn't kick Dooku's you know what but that's a discussion for another message board.
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Post by gmoon on Aug 27, 2006 14:35:50 GMT -5
You're giving me the courage to attempt a repair on my Amiga 4000 mouse (I have no idea what model # it is, it only has a serial # on the bottom....) Several years ago it hit the floor and the left button died. Been using the same model you're resurrecting from my A1000 ever since.
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Post by MadModder on Aug 27, 2006 15:30:36 GMT -5
This story may not end happy. For some strange reason it doesn't work anymore. I have no idea why. It's all the same components like in that picture with the serial mouse attached. I can't find any faults. *curses* Oh well. At least it didn't cost me anything, except a lot of time. And that serial cable... It was quite a long time ago I (obviously) butchered that poor mouse. I lived with my parents then. Now I'm over 30 Does anyone have a C1351 for sale? ;D It was a birthday present. I can't believe I did it. Lesson #1: If you do something stupid, you will pay for it sooner or later. [edit] This was rather interesting... www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/documents/projects/interfaces/mouse/Mouse.htmlI have lots of serial mouses. Well... one Genius and one Microsoft less now... but still quite a few.
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Post by MadModder on Dec 8, 2012 13:30:45 GMT -5
Just to let you know. I've decided to retry this restoration operation. However, some of the parts has gone missing again due to moving to a bigger place. I haven't thrown anything important away though. Everything that had to go, I thoroughly examined for possible use. That means the bits and pieces are still in my possession. Somewhere. In front of me I have the bottom half of the plastic case, and the electronics. The crystal is suspiciously wiggly. I also have a complete Amiga tank mouse purchased for 10 bucks. As an eventual donor. I haven't found the Amiga mouse I bought 6 years ago... When I have the time, I'll dive into every single cardboard box in the basement to find what I want.
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Post by MadModder on Dec 8, 2012 17:24:27 GMT -5
I resoldered the crystal. One pad had come off of the board, so I used a short piece of wire to connect that leg. And some hot glue to protect the crystal somewhat from vibrations. Maybe I'll continue my quest for the forgotten parts tomorrow.
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Post by MadModder on Dec 9, 2012 12:54:32 GMT -5
Guess what? I found the original 1351 button piece, the one I didn't find 6 years ago! Woohoo! Did I say I never throw anything away except garbage? Haha! [edit] It suddenly struck me that I have a diversity of very unsorted stuff in a drawer a few meters away. I dug down into it, and there, at the bottom, it was. The C1351 bezel top part! And about that hole in the back of the bottom part. I had a pushbutton there. When I pressed it the +5V was cut. In that way I could change the mouse mode between 1350 and 1351 without having to unplug it or powercycle the 64.
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Post by MadModder on Apr 20, 2015 11:23:34 GMT -5
Hmm... I kind of regret hacking the PCB up like that now...
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