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Post by d0c on Nov 26, 2005 12:49:33 GMT -5
i just got an vic-1011a rs 232c terminal cartridge. how can i test it, is there some basic program or pokes etc i can type in and get connact with it on the c64? i want to test it so i know it works... what cabel must i have to connect it to my pc, i want to try out q-link.... here is some pictures of the thing i got.. vic1011avic cabelwhat is this cabel used for??
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Post by Golan Klinger on Nov 26, 2005 14:28:29 GMT -5
I suspect that is a null-modem cable. If so, the cable is used to connect the VIC-1011a (and the Commodore into which it is plugged) to a PC which runs software that allows the Commodore to access the Internet. You can find out everything you need to know from the Quantum Link Reloaded website at: www.quantum-link.org/The easiest way to test the VIC-1011a and the cable is to set everything up and connect to Q-Link. If you have trouble, you've already found the best place to ask for help.
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Post by d0c on Nov 27, 2005 12:07:53 GMT -5
the cable i can connect the one end to the vic1011a, and the other end have the same connection as the vic1011a, so it fits into another c64 where you plug in the vic1011a(this cabel cant be used on a pc). i am still wondering what this cable is used for... printer?, tranfer files between another c64??, modem?..
anyone have the vic1011a manual or a link to one??
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Post by d0c on Nov 27, 2005 12:28:44 GMT -5
i have looked at the link but coundt find any cabel info... the vic1011a have a db25f plug in one end. the pc have two db9m and one db25m... so where do i plug in to the pc? and what cabel should i use. i need a cabel with db25m to connect to the vic1011a the other end of the cabele can be a db9 or db25..... sorry for being a newbie here but i dont want to blowup anything, since the vic1011a is very very rare item to find in norway these days, nearly impossible.... what pc cabel should i look for??
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Post by RaymondDay on Nov 27, 2005 13:05:34 GMT -5
I hooked up a VIC-1011A to my UDS-10 but I can do the same RS232 cord on the back of a com port. But I just used a cable that had the 3 wires hooked up. 2 to 2, 3 to 3, and 7 to 7. Most you will find the other way 2 to 3, 3 to 2, and 7 to 7. That will not work with the VIC-1011a. I think that is a null cable modem the 3 to 2 and 2 to 3 ones.
I am not sure what all ready made type cable would work with it. If you can just make your own RS232 cable and just use the 3 wires. That will work with 1200 baud Q-Link for sure.
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Post by Golan Klinger on Nov 27, 2005 13:52:34 GMT -5
the cable i can connect the one end to the vic1011a, and the other end have the same connection as the vic1011a, so it fits into another c64 where you plug in the vic1011a Sorry about that. I looked at the picture and yeah, that isn't a regular null modem cable. Unfortunately, it is impossible to accurately discern from that picture what kind of cable that is without examining it to see which pins go where. You may have to buy or construct a cable (it isn't difficult). Search the web for more information.
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Post by kojaishi on Nov 27, 2005 15:30:09 GMT -5
In order to use the vic-1011a with a null-modem cable, a gender changer is necessary. I've successfully connected to Q-link with this setup: C64 -> vic-1011a -> db25m gender changer -> null-modem cable -> db25 to db9 converter -> pc.
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Post by Leif Bloomquist on Nov 27, 2005 18:02:09 GMT -5
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Post by Leif Bloomquist on Nov 27, 2005 18:05:27 GMT -5
That looks like a PCLink cable...maybe? A PCLink cable goes directly from the C64 User Port to the Parallel port on your PC, and you can access files on your C64 sort of like 64HDD. The IDE64 supports it too.
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Post by d0c on Nov 27, 2005 19:52:07 GMT -5
i found a modem cabel, its a db9f/db25m. that fits the vic1011a and my com1 port on my pc... its used for modems so i dunno if it works.
i also found a null modem cabel but that got a db9f on both ends. i can get a plug that makes it a db25f in one end but i still need a gender changer for that to make it a db25m,so it fits the vic1011a... i dont know if this one will work either, but i read its a serial transfer cabel between two computers..
other cables i found its called rs232 modem cable db25m/db25f...
i dunno how these cables are wired, i guess the easyes thing to do was to solder my own, but then no one sells cabel plugs i can solder....
so my question is, is modem cabels, null modems cabel and rs232 modem cabel all the same cabel that can be used for serial tranfers?
anyway if i use a cabel that are wired diffrent than the one in the drawing on the qlink site. will it kill my vic1011a or can i plug any cabel in there??
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Post by Moloch on Nov 29, 2005 20:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by RaymondDay on Nov 30, 2005 13:46:58 GMT -5
I found this out with my VIC-1011A and Q-Link Reloaded.
I can't auto set it up to dial in. I have to have it so I type in:
atdt 5551212
then press F1 when it connects.
If I load up CCGMS 5.5 Terminal Program I can do a at and get OK back at 1200 baud.
The VIC-1011A works but not auto dial on Q-Link reloaded.
The RS232 card I have has 25 pins on both ends. Then I use a gender Changer and a 25 pin to 9 pin.
Testing this cable with the adapters on it for connections on the 25 pin side and 9 pin side is like this:
25 pin 9 pin
6 1 2 2 3 3 6 4 7 5 8 6 5 7 4 8 NC 9
My cable I am using for this I guess is a printer cable. It says on it. "IEEE-1284 Compliant"
I have lot of Changers. But the one I am using on this is the only one with male and then female on the other end. That way you can at it on the end of a cord that was all ready connected. They mostly all are male to male or female to female. If I hook this cord right in to the 25 pin to 9 pin it will not work with the VIC-1011A.
I guess it needs a Gender Changer or null cable modem cable.
O I am testing this all with a new load of Fedora Core 4 Linux. All that is on it is up dates and tcpser. Well I had to do a "yum install gcc*" too. After the make it comes back with what looks like lots of errors but tcpser works real good. I even tested it with the USB to RS232 adapter I have.
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Post by d0c on Dec 6, 2005 11:53:17 GMT -5
can you use a parallel seriel db25m/db25m cabel that is used for the printer/parallel port??, does cabel are realy easy to find at any pc stores and i only need a adaptor db25f and a db9f for the pc end...
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