murple
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Post by murple on Mar 24, 2007 12:18:30 GMT -5
An attempt to avoid hijacking the "Post here everytime you get new stuff" thread. Post here if you want to list or brag about your collection.
I might as well start.
2 C64s, 1 of which works, the other is for parts
1 C128, the primary 8 bit Commodore I use
1 C128D, this would be the primary one I use, but it needs a new 8581 chip and its drive is horribly misaligned... hopefully will be fixed soon
1 Amiga (1000), it was cheap
2 Amiga 500s, only one works, the other is for parts
1 Amiga 2000, just got this, its replacing the working 500 as my primary Amiga
1 Plus/4, neat but I have no software for it
1 C16, doesn't work, used parts from it to bring Plus/4 to life, originally thought about using the case for a C64, but the ports are all wrong and I dont want to cut it up
1 VIC-20, I have like 2 or 3 cartridges for it which frankly are kind of lame
1 working 1541 and 1581, 3 misaligned or otherwise broken 1541s, and a nonworking 1571 that I bought off ebay from an ad swearing it worked, complete with several screenshots of games allegedly loaded from it. Bastard.
2 C2N tape drives
1084S monitor, the main Commodore and Amiga monitor I use
1902 monitor, used on my 128 before I got an Amiga and found it used a different kind of RGB signal
1702 monitor, got it free from some old dude who gave me all his Commodore stuff for free to get it out of his closet
2 TI99/4a computers, one of which was my first computer and the other was just cheaper than buying new joysticks... theres 2 or 3 TI games that are fun, but I rarely use these. Its not like theyre Commodores.
Atari 2600, original 6 switch model
Assorted games, cartriges, joysticks paddles, mice etc for all the above
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Post by David Murray on Mar 24, 2007 13:43:44 GMT -5
Somehow I doubt anyone (even hardcore C= users) will read through all of these.. but as I have nothing better to do for the moment: 8-bit machines:Commodore Vic-20 Commodore C16 2 Commodore Plus/4 (1 works, 1 broke) 5 Commodore 64 (3 work, 2 broke) 2 Commodore 64C (1 works, 1 broke) Commodore 128D 5 Commodore 1541 disk drives 1 Commodore 1571 disk drive 1 Commodore 1581 disk drive 1 Commodore cassette drive 1 1084 monitor (sort of works) Atari 2600 jr. (modified for composite video) Coleco 16 bit machinesAmiga 1000 (512K) Amiga 500 (1 MB unit) Apple IIgs (with two 3.5" and one 5.25" drives) CD-i Macintosh Plus othernintendo 64 Sega Dreamcast And I have almost all of this photographed and documented here: galaxy22.dyndns.org/misc/commodore/index.html
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murple
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Post by murple on Mar 25, 2007 3:01:07 GMT -5
> Atari 2600 jr. (modified for composite video)
You have a link for schematics on how to do this for a (non-jr) 2600? RF adapters blow leper thingy.
> Apple IIgs (with two 3.5" and one 5.25" drives)
I was never an Apple fan... there were 16 bit Apple II systems? I thought the Mac and derivatives were their first and only 16 bit. Is the IIgs a fully backwards compatible Apple II, but 16 bit? If only Commodore had done that using the 16 bit version of the C64 CPU!
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Post by Golan Klinger on Mar 25, 2007 3:33:31 GMT -5
I was never an Apple fan... there were 16 bit Apple II systems? I thought the Mac and derivatives were their first and only 16 bit. This may sound confusing but you're right on both counts. The Apple IIGS was a 16 bit machine. It used a WDC 65816 microprocessor with a 2.8 MHz clock speed and it was fully compatible with all the earlier computers in the Apple II line (II, II+, IIe, IIc and IIc+). It offered improved (G)raphics and (S)ound and was a rather impressive all around. The Macintosh, however, was the first 16 bit computer from Apple because it was introduced in January of 1984 and the Apple IIGS was released in the fall of 1986. Are you familiar with the Commodore 65? While it doesn't use a 16 bit microprocessor, it could be argued that it was the Commodore equivalent to the Apple IIGS.
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Post by tlr on Mar 25, 2007 4:00:27 GMT -5
I was never an Apple fan... there were 16 bit Apple II systems? I thought the Mac and derivatives were their first and only 16 bit. Is the IIgs a fully backwards compatible Apple II, but 16 bit? If only Commodore had done that using the 16 bit version of the C64 CPU! The number of bits are about the CPU core. 8088 based IBM XT's are considered 16-bit even though the CPU has just an 8-bit data bus. 68000 based MAC's and Amigas are (maybe someone disagrees here?) considered 32-bit as the instruction set and registers are entierly 32-bit oriented. The actual data bus is 16-bit though. 65816 systems can using the same logic possibly be called 16-bit, but personally I think that is a bit of a stretch.
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Post by David Murray on Mar 25, 2007 10:34:39 GMT -5
You have a link for schematics on how to do this for a (non-jr) 2600? RF adapters blow leper thingy. I don't have anything handy. However, when I decided to do this mod, I specifically sought out an Atari 2600 jr because the websites I had read showed the procedure to be much simpler on the Jr. No parts required other than wires. I think it was more complicated on the original.
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Post by murple on Mar 25, 2007 12:41:12 GMT -5
The C65 never made commercial production though. Would've been cool if it had, or if they'd built a 65816 based C64 upgrade. Other bit of fantasy hardware from Commodore that woulda been cool would be if they'd made a Zorro card version of a C64 that could plug into Amigas and give full hardware emulation of a C64 like the PC cards they had. If they could've made the Amiga able to use all the old Commodore 64 hardware and software, I bet more people would've stuck with Commodore and they'd still exist as a company. I suppose it would've had to be available pre-Zorro for use in the initial Amiga to be a real market factor. I know the reason my family never got an Amiga and switched to PCs was because my dad was upset that the Amigas would mean having to lose all his old C64 software... he, like I think many non-geek home computer users did, decided PCs were a "better" choice because they maintained backwards compatibility with older PC software with new hardware revisions. Oh well.
Back to topic... I also remembered I have 2 Commodore printers. One is a VIC-1525. The other is, uhm, h*** it may not even be a Commodore, but I got it with a crate of free C64 stuff. I think it might be some antique Star or Epson. If anyone wants either or both of these, I'd consider trading. I'm located in the Washington DC area.
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Post by Jim Brain on Mar 25, 2007 20:29:37 GMT -5
Hmm, to add my $.02:
Excepting the normal stuff:
C65, with Fuzzy Navel Burnin Card, and RAM Expansion Card Commodore 264 Fred Bowen's prototype 128 C116, NTSC 1515 Printer DPS1101 SFD1001 B128
Of the non-CBM stuff, I have a rare Mensch Computer, which was designed by Bill Mensch, creator of the 65C816S
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Post by murple on Mar 26, 2007 9:25:49 GMT -5
Were any of the C65 models made actually fully functional without major bugs? How much software actually works for it, there's a 64 compatible mode isnt there?
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Post by Ian Colquhoun on Mar 26, 2007 12:56:08 GMT -5
Oh, I suppose I'll pile on too:
1 x VIC-20 1 x C64 2 x C64C (1 w/JiffyDOS) 1 x Plus/4 1 x C128 2 x SX64 (1 has missing keyboard cable and 1 broken key) 1 x Amiga 600HD 1 x C2N Datasette 2 x 1541 (1 is currently broken) 1 x 1541-II (w/JiffyDOS) 1 x 1571 (modded with parallel connector) 2 x 1581 (w/JiffyDOS) 1 x 1802 monitor 1 x 1084S monitor 1 x Promenade C1 EPROM Burner 1 x modded DTV Hummer and of course a bunch of misc. carts, Wico and Epyx joysticks
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Post by rockotiger on Mar 26, 2007 14:02:00 GMT -5
Well, here is my collection. It's borderline absolutely ridiculous to own so many computers, but my friends have come to accept it and are no longer surprised when new items arrive.
Believe it or not, this is an incomplete list. There are 5 or 10 machines I haven't added, but I can't remember what they are. Anything that isn't at least 10 years old is not included. I have duplicates of some machines, such as the 64's . I also don't mention the accessories, boxed software, books, joysticks, mice, manuals, disk drives, monitors, etc. There is just too much of that stuff to catalog right now.
My plan is to one day have high quality photographs of each (photography is another of my hobbies) as well as detailed descriptions of my encounters with and acquisition of each computer.
Apple IIe Enhanced (Platinum) Apple IIc Apple IIgs (with TransWarp GS & SCSI) Apple Macintosh Powerbook 150 Apple Macinotsh Powerbook Duo 2300C Apple Macintosh (original without 128k on badge) Apple Macintosh 512k (Model M0001W with case) Apple Macintosh Plus (with 4meg RAM) Apple Macintosh SE Apple Macintosh Classic Apple Macintosh Classic II Apple Macintosh Color Classic Apple Macintosh LC Apple Macintosh LC II Apple Macintosh LC 575 Apple Macintosh LC 580 Apple Macintosh Performa 6230CD Apple Power Macintosh 5400/120 Apple Power Macintosh 5500/225 Apple Power Macintosh 6400/180 Apple Power Macintosh 6500/300
AT&T Model 2002
Atari 800 Atari 1040ST
Commodore VIC-20 Commodore 64 Commodore 64C Commodore 128 Commodore 128D Commodore Plus/4 Commodore Amiga 1000 Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB & RTC) Commodore Amiga 2000HD Commodore Amiga 3000 (2MB Chip/8MB Fast/50MB HD) Commodore Amiga 1200HD (68030 50Mhz & 1960 Monitor)
Compaq Portable II Compaq Portable III Compaq Handheld PC model C140
Digital Alpha Workstation
Franklin PC8000
Gateway 2000 Colorbook 486DX/33
Headstart Explorer
HP 85A HP 95LX HP Omnibook 4000CT
IBM PC Convertable Model 5140 IBM PS/2 Model 25 IBM PS/2 Model 55 SX
Magnavox Odyssey 2
NeXT Station Turbo Color
Otrana Attache
Packard Bell 386 Laptop
Sharp PC-1500A
Tandy Micro Color Computer Tandy Color Computer 2 Tandy Color Computer 3 Tandy TRS-80 Model 100 Tandy 1000EX Tandy 1000HX Tandy 1000SL Tandy 2500SX/20 Hard Drive
Texas Instruments TI-99/4A (Black & Silver) Texas Instruments TI-99/4A (Beige)
Timex Sinclair 1000
Toshiba T1200 Toshiba T3100/20
Unisys PDA-2000
Zenith Data Systems SuperSport SX
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murple
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Post by murple on Mar 26, 2007 18:57:01 GMT -5
I vote that rockotiger and Jim Brain get together and start a computer petting zoo. Pay an hourly rate to come in and play with the vintage computer of your choice. Play a slightly higher hourly rate to play with the beta-test computers like the C65 and C128-FB.
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Post by David Murray on Mar 26, 2007 20:24:14 GMT -5
Although that would be cool, it would never be profitable as there aren't that many people interested, and those that are are seperated by huge distances on that map, so there would be few visitors.
By the way.. my collection used to be a lot bigger. After having a child and having to give up a room in the house for her, I got rid of a ton of equipment. I didn't get rid of much Commodore stuff, but I had a ton of Sun Sparc and old Macintosh equipment.. the only thing I got rid of that I regret was my Apple IIe. Otherwise, I haven't really missed any of the Sun or Mac stuff.
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Post by rockotiger on Mar 26, 2007 22:14:24 GMT -5
I vote that rockotiger and Jim Brain get together and start a computer petting zoo. I have always dreamed of having a computer museum, but I have also been aware that it would never be able to sustain itself. I have therefore decided to build a home with a second story capable of holding the entire collection in a setup and usable state. That in itself is quite an undertaking and will be very costly as it will double the size of the house. Financially I'm not ready for this step, but I hope to be there within a few years. I have found that if I set goals, even if a bit lofty, I always find a way to make it work out. I have also considered building a normal house and having a separate warehouse-type building that would house the computer collection. I would rather wait a bit longer and have the large house solution. I just like the idea of walking upstairs in my pajamas to mess around on the C64 rather than having to walk outside to do so. Either way, perhaps one day I'll be able to showcase my collection for others who share my passion for vintage computers.
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Post by Jim Brain on Mar 26, 2007 23:13:03 GMT -5
I try to bring mine to expos and shows I attend. I received the most precious ones as a gift on the understanding that they be shared with others.
Jim
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