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Post by Golan Klinger on Oct 30, 2006 13:30:26 GMT -5
This issue is currently being discussed here.
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Post by paradime on Oct 30, 2006 20:25:35 GMT -5
I am sure every link you click on the new page quantum-link.org gets this guy who like stoled the quantum-link.org To be fair, this guy didn't "steal" anything. The domain name was made available and he registered it. Period. I'm not sure why you'd call this stealing. Ultimately, the blame falls on Jeff for letting the domain slip.
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Post by thurstan on Oct 31, 2006 8:53:30 GMT -5
He didnt steal anything but registered the domain purely to either annoy or extort money out of the previous owner. There have been many domain squatters that have been forced to relinquish their site if it was obvious that their site had nothing to do with the name. What would happen if somehow www.microsoft.com was not registered and you or I went and registered it to us instead? A nice stern letter from a solicitor/lawyer!
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Post by paradime on Nov 1, 2006 16:01:34 GMT -5
but registered the domain purely to either annoy or extort money out of the previous owner. Did this guy send Jeff an e-mail asking for money? If he did, maybe you'd be right but it's still well within his rights to do so. If he didn't, I'd dare say you may have just libeled him. Obviously, whomever registered the domain did so in the hopes of generating traffic for affiliate links, etc. I'm sure if no one went to quantum-link.org and there was zero traffic, the individual wouldn't bother to renew the domain next year. Microsoft is a registered trademark. quantum-link.org is not. If it was, you'd be able to retrieve the domain with little effort. Most cybersquatters are registering domain name with trademarks without permission. Makes sense, right?
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Post by thurstan on Nov 2, 2006 6:56:39 GMT -5
Well there is a link on there saying something about "if you want this site, then you can make me an offer and I will consider it. Only offers above $500 will be considered!!! The guy has seen that the site was popular etc, pounced on it when it expired and then put that message up, if thats not an underhand,sly,dishonourable act then i dont know what is! A good example was a chap called Mike Rowe who had a domain called www.mike-rowesoft.com or something very similar. Microsoft forced him to change it, even though it was a totally legit name i.e. his own name. Anyway it just annoyed me thats all.
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Post by paradime on Nov 2, 2006 21:07:48 GMT -5
if thats not an underhand,sly,dishonourable act then i dont know what is! As of today, I didn't see any sort of notice requesting money. Even if there was, I really don't see what's so dishonest about it? This is the nature of Internet domains and it's been going on for a long time. No offense to Jeff but he doesn't own any sort of right or trademark to the quantum-link domain. Anyone else has just as much right to it as Jeff did. The fact that he forgot to renew the domain is just tough luck on his part and, hopefully, a lesson learned. Personally, I agree in principle with you. I really dislike cybersquatting because I know quite a few people who can't register domains that are relevant to their businesses because cybersquatters have snatched them up. However, I'm also pragmatic enough to realize this is the current climate of the Internet and very little can be done so if you have a domain name that you want to keep, do everything in your power to ensure you keep it. Personally, my ISP sends me a million and one reminder notices as to when my domain names are about to expire so for me to forget would be highly unlikely. Also, if a domain is really, really important, you can do a 5 or 10 year registration. A good example was a chap called Mike Rowe I suggest you go back and read the account of Mike Rowe on something like Wikipedia. Where he screwed up was that he demanded $10,000 for the domain. That, effectively, turned him into a cybersquatter. Besides, I'm sure if that Microsoft never existed, I doubt he would have registered his site as MikeRoweSoft. I'm sure he did it because it is similar sounding to Microsoft. Also, he got a lot of goodies from MS for all his troubles so I'm not sure if this is really a good example to prove your point.
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Post by thurstan on Nov 7, 2006 5:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by Golan Klinger on Nov 7, 2006 7:01:13 GMT -5
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