Tilt
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Post by Tilt on Jan 18, 2005 6:55:59 GMT -5
Hello Still waiting for my DTV, but it's somewhere in the mail system. Can't wait I was wondering havn't anyone found out how to connect a Datasette to the DTV yet? I've searched but havn't found anything about it. It would be cool converting T64/TAP files to wav and burn them on a CD plug in a "dummy MP3/CD-"casette in the datasette player and "Press play on CD" ;D And, with turbo tape algorithm load times would be very acceptable. -Tilt
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Post by David Murray on Jan 18, 2005 10:10:05 GMT -5
I'm only qualified to answer half of this issue. I know the kernel routines for loading and saving to cassette have been removed in order to add the loading of data from the built in ROM drive.
However.. I haven't heard anybody mention if the hardware in the device exists for loading and saving from tape. I haven't messed with data-set hacking in years, but I seem to recall it was connected more or less right to one of the lines on the 6510 CPU. --DavidM
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Post by MagerValp on Jan 18, 2005 13:29:36 GMT -5
No, no, no, no, no. What's wrong with you tape fetishists? Why on earth would anyone want to use tapes in this day and age? There's an IEC interface so you can connect disk drives, or a PC with a cheap XE1541 cable.
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Post by David Murray on Jan 18, 2005 23:08:06 GMT -5
Your argument doesn't really make any sense. I mean, if you want to get down to it, why would anybody want to use a Commodore at all in "this day and age." I guess it just depends on your level of nastalgia. I grew up using a dataset on my Commodore Vic20 and 64. I went without a disk drive for about 2 to 3 years because my parents couldn't afford to buy me one. So playing with the dataset is part of the whole nastalgia of the era. --DavidM
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Post by Robin Harbron on Jan 19, 2005 9:30:58 GMT -5
Your argument doesn't really make any sense. I mean, if you want to get down to it, why would anybody want to use a Commodore at all in "this day and age." I guess it just depends on your level of nastalgia. I grew up using a dataset on my Commodore Vic20 and 64. I went without a disk drive for about 2 to 3 years because my parents couldn't afford to buy me one. So playing with the dataset is part of the whole nastalgia of the era. --DavidM I couldn't even afford a datasette for the first few weeks of C64 ownership And then it took me about a year to buy myself a disk drive with paper route money. I believe MagerValp was a datasette-only kind of guy for a year or more too. We still use a C64 because we love the games for it, or because it's a great machine to tinker with, or code on - it's not pure nostalgia (for me, anyway). But a datasette? Unless you have software on cassette that's unavailable on disk (unlikely) why would you use one? I can't think of a single reason, apart from pure nostalgia. And in that case, I think I'd need a real C64/VIC20 keyboard, and a fuzzy black & white TV hooked up through RF... the DTV doesn't really fit into this picture
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Post by Leif Bloomquist on Jan 19, 2005 17:17:54 GMT -5
And in that case, I think I'd need a real C64/VIC20 keyboard, and a fuzzy black & white TV hooked up through RF... the DTV doesn't really fit into this picture Haha, that's exactly what I have on my C64 BBS, since I only need to look at the screen once in a while. The first time I hooked the TV up, it really did bring back fond memories when I saw the 'familiar' grey on grey screen, with grey lettering and RF noise all over it Even today, it's so weird using my VIC20 with a color monitor, because I never had a color screen as a kid. Back on topic, sort of, did you know there is a cassette drive for PCs (not for data storage, but still kind of neat): www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/6908/
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Post by Jeff Ledger on Jan 19, 2005 20:53:10 GMT -5
Geez guys, you are really bring back some memories...
My first 64 was hooked to a black/white 10" TV (RF fuzzies) with a cassette drive. I remember playing my cart games because it didn't take so looonngg to load.
My first BBS was run on that exact configuration with the addition of a VIC modem. (before auto answer modems were within affordable price range)
Tape Line BBS (eves 8pm-10pm) running Memory BBS.
(Great memories indeed....)
Jeff
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Tilt
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Post by Tilt on Jan 20, 2005 10:04:57 GMT -5
I'm only qualified to answer half of this issue. I know the kernel routines for loading and saving to cassette have been removed in order to add the loading of data from the built in ROM drive. --DavidM D... why couldn't they just assign it to floppy 9 or something... Would be cool with a bit of tape nostalgia - and with the suggestion of the dummy casette you could have lots of games on one CD easy to carry arround instead of a bulky floppy drive. Btw. I do have a 1541-II but a really need some new floppy's. Havn't got any at all. Where do you buy (new) floppy's? And when I get some floppys I'll have to make a cable to the PC to transfer games -Tilt
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Post by Robin Harbron on Jan 20, 2005 12:36:34 GMT -5
D... why couldn't they just assign it to floppy 9 or something... Like he indicated, the cassette routines were removed to make room for the new ROM-disk routines - they had to go somewhere, and the cassette routines seem to be the most useless things in the ROM Protovision sells them in their online store: www.protovision-online.de/catalog/
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Tilt
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Post by Tilt on Jan 20, 2005 15:13:43 GMT -5
Thanks! Now I have some use of my floppy drive... - Tilt
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